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Girlie Show rehearsal. Erotica into Fever https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eE8NSo_Stvo Did ya’ll ever see this. She’s so bossed up, it’s so sexy.

HAHA, We were basically typing the same thing at the sametime. Great minds!!!

The Girlie Show was incredible. She was dancing better and singing better. In retrospect, it was her strongest tour considering that but who knows if would have toured with BS or ROL. Vincent Paterson said that Madonna really came into herself with BA, but GS she had everything to lose. She danced and sang for her life.

I think it’s cringy when she talks about Basquiat, almost as if she is name dropping. A moment when Madonna doesn’t realize she’s Madonna. I’ve met Jellybean on numerous occasions, not well enough to know him personally, but well enough to know he’s a nice guy ( did I just drop a name? )

I don’t know if I should believe you or not. Anything is possible with her

Well. she certainly wants you to think she does.

Thank you so much!!!!

I agree with you and do you know what bums me out? Is that I didn’t feel that same excitement I used to feel when she was gonna release music. Maybe it has to do more with me than her, but it’s just different.

Very true. Liz is legend!!! The only thing makes Madonna just as important as Liz is the fact that she, at the time, was the most famous woman in the world and a lot of her fanbase was pre-teens and teens, the ones that needed to be educated the most. I was 15 in 1990, at the height of the pandemic and I didnt learn about it in school, I learned about it from, The Like A Prayer Album and unfortunately a sick uncle.

It’s really a combination of things and that has slowly happened since 2002. Not many people can relate to Madonna and certainly not to the extent of her career in the 80’s and 90’s. People loved her rags to riches story. It is so American. 1. Goes to NYC at 19 w/35 dollars in her pocket. 2. Hard working Catholic Midwestern Italian with 7 brothers and sisters. 3. Proclaims in 1984 that she wants to “rule the world” and does so by 1990… You all know the story. ( The American Dream ) ***1992 - Sex Book / Body Of Evidence/ Erotica / Her image is forever tarnished in a lot of people’s minds. ***1994 - Dennis Rodman and The David Letterman appearance over shadowed everything else. ***1996 - Everyone loves a baby and a comeback. At this time, if your were on Oprah and she approved, you’re golden. ***1998 - Quicker than a ROL Madonna is certifiably the Queen of Pop, forever and always. ***1999 - accolades accolades accolades ***2000 - Married a handsome, talented, director (gross) another baby, kick-ass body, Music, accolades. ***2001 - In my opinion, that’s the last year we see Madonna as we know her. ***2002 and on - Kabbalah take over, Divorce, dating 21 year olds, Flashing her ass and tits just for the sake of doing it, surgery, surgery, surgery, and acting way younger than she is, but it doesn’t seem genuine to the public. Madonna is no longer relatable, and she’s not doing anything to change it. I’m not gonna slag her anymore, I love her. Sometimes I feel as though she is self sabotaging her career in someway because maybe she thinks she doesn’t deserve it. She’s very hard on herself and she’s probably bored too. No matter how Coo-koo for cocoa puffs she gets, I’ll always support her and we will never know, What It’s Like For Madonna.

It seems like Gen X Gays are the ones who understand Madonna. Boomers and Millennials not as much and it makes sense because Gen Xers saw her explode in the 80’s. Are you gay? I am. I came out in 1993 and the gay community is nothing like it used to be. It can be a hideous existence if you don’t where you fit in.

I think the gay community can do a little better when it comes to Madonna. But you’re right. It is the LGBT Comm that had stuck by her. That’s as far as I’m touching this subject. ‘Everybody knows the damn truth”

Billie Jean!!! Hey there… I’m the guy that fanned out on you on Youtube like 2 weeks ago. I was talking about how yout intros are amazing. Just really fantastic. The timing and quality is perfect. The part with the Madonna Evita kiss and the pop! Brilliant. Thanks mate!!!

https://nypost.com/2022/02/14/worst-to-first-madonna-annoyed-z100-into-making-her-a-star/ The “fighting spirit” of a young woman in her 20’s. This is why I love her so much. Hey!!! Maybe she should call her bio. FIGHTING SPIRIT.

I think everything in Christopher Ciccone’s book was true because he had no reason to lie. AND if was lying the stories would have been way juicer. ( yuck, I hate the word juicy ) There must be at least a couple gays in this forum that know Christopher.

She’s more spontaneous now than she used to be on tour. I attended all 3 Re-invention shows in Toronto and one of the nights she had a hard time finishing Papa Don’t Preach. She was laughing and couldnt finish the lyrics and the crowd went wild. I cant think of anything else crazy. Certainly not something like her yelling at fans for smoking in South America.

I’m kind of new to posting opinions in the forum and I can see it can get heated sometimes. Yikes!!! I don’t see anything wrong someone disagreeing with Madonna and TRUST ME, I love when people stick up for her, because they are far and few between nowadays. AND. I would never talk shit about M in front of the average person. I 100% have her back.

Well. I don’t think it’s “disgusting” to question Madonna’s motives because what she’s presenting to the public and her fans is a carefully thought out imagine and she has often put out things that don’t represent who she is, such as the SEX book to Nicki Finn. I don’t think we started seeing her deal with her in this way until 2003. I also do believe, like you, that she likes rap music, and that maybe she’s does it for her kids because she is so close to them. Her swallee collab sounded very natural to me. The Nicki Minaj & Lil Wayne collabs have not sounded so natural. Madonna also does certain things because people don’t like her doing them and it pisses them off, and for that reason only. When Madona does that, it’s pretentious. She’s a pop star and pop stars are pretentious. I love Madonna so much more when I stopped believing she was God.

I think that her work with rappers was completely artistic and legit until 2003 ish. It’s pretty obvious for Hardcore Madonna fans to notice. As Soon As she started working with Missy Elliot, Nicki M., Lil Wayne, etc. it’s become, ummmmm, idk, can we say, reductive? But seriously, there is that tinge of wanting a younger audience and it’s been pretty noticeable. I love rap, especially 80’s and 90’s rap but it’s not coming off as sincere for Madonna and she does have a history of being misunderstood. Her collab with Swalee seemed to fit perfect though.

It’s always interesting to hear what they have to say about Madonna. You can tell that in some instances they sound as if they’re going to slag on her, but if you think about it, Madonna is just a normal person to them, and their friend/boss. We all have shit to say about our friends/bosses.

I recommend that anyone who is curious about Niki and Donna, that they watch this hour long concert. The video and sound quality are good and Madonna fans are representing. Niki is a vocal POWERHOUSE and Donna is a hippie flower child still searching the meaning of life. I never realized how much Donna sounds like Cyndi Lauper. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RN2spSa0xA&t=2307s

Gone. Ain't No Big Deal or Supernatural?

The list featured 100 artists, but i couldnt crop it correctly w/o losing the top 10/20. I deleted the list after I did this. Ill try to find the rest